BC Provincial Leaders Debate – Part 3

Previous: Part 2

The Cast

John Horgin: Leader of the New Democratic Party
Andrew Wilkinson: Leader of the Liberals
Sonia Furstenau: Leader of the Greens
Shachi Kurl: The moderator

Kurl

Do you believe that reconciliation with first nations requires a province to fully consider indigenous opposition to resource developments in their territories even if it means the project will never be built?

Furstenau

[Non answer.]

Wilkinson

Natural resource projects get reconciled by negotiation. Sometimes conflicts arise because of linear projects that go through many different territories. The right place to resolve those is in the courts.

Horgin

I agree with Mr. Wilkinson.

Kurl

Mr. Horgan, the Site C dam project is billions of dollars over budget. BC hydro has reported serious structural issues with construction and has offered no clear fix. Will you go ahead with this project?

Horgin

Four billion dollars was already spent and we felt that taxpayers shouldn’t absorb that when we could have clean green energy into the future so we proceeded with the project. New challenges have come forward. We’ve appointed an individual to look at the economics and the engineering and report back to government. When we see that report, we’ll make a decision.

Kurl

Your government allowed the continued export of raw logs, the ongoing construction of the trans mountain pipeline, LNG (liquid natural gas) and again Site C. Why would a voter who puts climate issues first ever support the NDP?

Horgin

The Kinder Morgan [trans mountain pipeline] project is not a project that we supported. We went all the way to the supreme court to try and block it. The federal government intervened, bought the project and is proceeding with it. LNG is something I’ve always supported. LNG Canada in Kitimat is going to create thousands and thousands of jobs.

Kurl

Ms. Furstenau, you’ve promised a carbon neutral province by 2045. You’ve said you’ll end oil and gas subsidies and put the money into retraining workers for employment in a green economy. What do you say to people who are worried about being left behind?

Furstenau

Propping up an industry with taxpayer money–LNG Canada got six billion dollars to keep it afloat because it can’t make it on its own–makes no sense. Site C is [being built] to provide subsidized electricity to fracking.

Kurl

Your caucus supposed the NDP moving forward on big fossil fuel projects. Did the Greens abandon their principles in pursuit of power?

Furstenau

We voted against the LNG tax bill 14 times. It was the Lliberals that collaborated with the NDP to pass that bil.

Kurl

Mr. Wilkinson, the BC Liberals made history by implementing a carbon tax. If elected what will you do with a currently scheduled 10 percent increase to this tax?

Wilkinson

It’s been plateaued when the federal government got involved because the carbon tax has to be in synchronization with the federal carbon program. It will move ahead incrementally in concert with the federal government.

Kurl

You have said that you would stop those who are protesting the Trans Mountain pipeline, but section two of the Canadian charter of rights guarantees freedom of expression and association. How then do you propose to stop these protests?

Wilkinson

These disputes have to be resolved in the courts, not by blocking railroad tracks, not by blocking the West Coast Express leaving 5000 people stranded so they can’t get home for dinner and pick up their kids from day care. Protest is completely legitimate within reasonable limits. It’s got to be respectful.

Horgin

[BC has] the most progressive climate action plan in North America. Mr. Wilkinson, what can you say to British Columbians. Would you pick up where Sonia and I left off?

Wilkinson

Greenhouse gases have gone up regularly each year under the NDP. The clean BC plan doesn’t even have funding allocated to it for 25 percent of the targets. British Columbia should … electrify our transportation.

Horgin

Do we need charging stations around BC? Yes. We do. We have more than any other jurisdiction in North America.

[Fact Check: According to BC Hydro, BC has about 1000 stations. California has 5000. That said, per capita, looks like we beat every American state.]

We’re funding more spaces in our universities for science, math, engineering, and technology so that we can have our younger people unlock the challenges of the future. You drove up tuition fees; you did away with grants for kids going to school .

Furstenau

Under your government the logging of old growth [forest] continued at the same rate as it did under the previous government. How do you answer the people who recognize the importance of protecting old growth?

Horgin

You were very supportive of the report on how we could manage old growth. It will result in the deferment of [the logging of] 353000 hectares of old growth forest into the future.

Furstenau

That plan is in place because we pushed for action on old growth.

Horgin

We put in place experts to come back and tell us where we should go and we’re implementing that plan.

Furstenau

Four out of five regions in British Columbia are logging old growth unsustainably.

Wilkinson

Sonia, your party made John Horgan premier. He broke his deal with you three weeks ago. He broke his own law on fixed election dates. Can john horgan be trusted?

Furstenau

[Non answer]

Wilkinson

[Rant’s about Horgin]

Furstenau

[Still fails to address the question]

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